# "Lawyer Mind" vs. "Business Mind": Breaking the Cycle of Perfectionism with Gary Mitchell
Episode of Studying Law Around the World, hosted by Claudio Klaus.
Published: Fri, 06 Feb 2026 11:00:00 GMT
Duration: 00:27:48
## Summary
In this episode, I sit down with Gary Mitchell, the founder of OnTrac Coach, who has spent over 20 years helping lawyers unlock their potential. We discuss the clash between the "Lawyer Mind" and the "Entrepreneur Mind," why perfectionism prevents freedom, and how to avoid the common burnout that hits around the 5-to-7-year mark. Gary explains his "AND Approach," showing how firm owners can achieve both financial success and personal fulfillment by learning to let go of control and build a trusted team.
## Listen
- Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/studyinglawaroundtheworld/episodes/Lawyer-Mind-vs--Business-Mind-Breaking-the-Cycle-of-Perfectionism-with-Gary-Mitchell-e3en4sb
- Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/38a26d44/podcast/play/115102027/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-1-6%2F417564717-44100-2-c719a921a7bdb.m4a
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- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/studying-law-around-the-world/id1547616885
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